Tuesday, January 24, 2006

The VAPORS

WASHINGTON POST live event with JANE HAMSHER

... for more see The Washington Post

UPDATE I: O'Reilly compares our criticism of Post to a fatwa. You can't make this stuff up.

UPDATE II: Bill O'Reilly, the video.

UPDATE III: Live blogging event tomorrow with The Washington Post and Jane Hamsher. Don't forget it.


Atrios picked up on what I just posted this morning. It used to be all conservative all the time striking out and getting uppity, but "Now that our side is engaging in some of the same tactics everyone is suddenly getting the vapors."

There are a lot of delicate flowers who inhabit this world.

It's open thread time, baby. Let 'em hear you.

38 Comments:

Blogger CaliforniaDrySherry said...

When I think of all of the nasty and slanderous things I've been called by the likes of Ann Coulter and Bill O'Reilly, and of how they would happily offer me up as a bullseye for terrorist target practice - well, I guess it's a good thing I'm not a delicate flower.

But the only kind of "vengeance" I want is to deny them CREDIBILITY.
I don't want to make them targets for anything but derisive laughter.
Because that's all they deserve.

11:14 AM  
Anonymous hoipolloi said...

I'm a delicate flower who has the vapors.

Thanks for putting this up. It's like smelling salts to my mighty wurlitzer induced fainting spells.

11:19 AM  
Anonymous Steady Eddie said...

It's sad that even a normally OK WaPo reporter who is not a Kool-Aid drinker, Tom Edsall, would make himself part of the deceitful circle-the-wagons brigade, as he did in this WaPo chat today:

Tom Edsall: It is difficult to understand how people can become so critical of the newspaper that broke the Abramoff scandal, has detailed the scope of the misuse of money, has run charts listing the actual recipients of Abramoff's contributions and the contributions of his clients -- stories that have left every other newspaper, magazine, tv station, etc in the dust -- can be accused of a conspiratorial attempt to hide Abramoff's overwhelmingly Republican connections based on a one line mistake, soon corrected, in an ombusman column. There is something wacky here.

Edsall is not so ignorant as to go on this long rant without knowing that Howell's RNC-parroting nonsense was not only the "one line" "Abramoff gave to Democrats" but also her continuing repetition of the "Abramoff directed the tribes to contribute" crap while asserting documentation which neither she nor anyone else at WaPo ever show.

And even worse, it Edsall's deceit was in the face of an earlier reader question that clearly stated

Sure, Abramoff may have "directed" the Indian tribes to give money to Democrats -- to give them LESS MONEY THAN BEFORE.... And saying that Ms. Howell is wrong is not disparaging her manners, morals, and ancestry. It is saying to her to be the voice of the reader, not the Republican National Committee.

Shalaigh Murray, Brady, and of course the abysmal Harris have been worse, but when Edsall publicly buys into this deceit, he needs to be called on it as well.

11:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Living in Alexandria and working with clients in DC, and just plain living here, I see this a lot.

I know someone in a senior position at WaPo. I like her. She's very dynamic, personable and well read. She's a published author herself. She's part of the establishment, though she would never think of herself this way. But. . .

She has no clue how out of touch she is, or how disconnected her reality is from people outside of her social set, which is heavily infiltrated and influenced by the GOP political establishment, notwithstanding the fact she she self identifies (privately) as a Dem.

Her love of the WaPo, its history, its cultural status, and its ideals blinds her to the reality of its dissipation and in some cases, its corruption. Now, let me be clear: she is not a fool, and not a naif. She just does not see it; she's too far in it.

Some of her blindness is class based: she has lost the ability to empathize with or take genuine account for the lives of those not like her, socially, economically and culturally. She does not mean to be this way, and would be offended to hear me point it out (I don't know her well enough to bet that direct).

They still call Mrs. Graham obver there "Mrs. Graham." To be an insider over there, you have to understand their love of their history, their mythology. They just can't see themselves as the bad guys, even when they are the bad guys, which is certainly not always.

But they lack the historical perspective of how far the establishment media has been incrementally infiltrated and bullied into submission by the right over two-plus decades.

I'm really hoping some WaPo insiders will be open enough to comment on this site, talking about the culture of the WaPo and how they perceive it. Take up for the paper if you want, we can listen. But in the end, it's your culture that is blinding you. I hope you can wake up.

1:53 PM  
Blogger AlanDownunder said...

But McClellan's continued attempt to portray the Abramoff scandal as bipartisan doesn't exactly help his credibility on the question of White House meetings. His assertion flies in the face of the facts and is a Republican talking point espoused only by the most partisan or most credulous.

- Dan Froomkin

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Blogger AlanDownunder said...

sorry that Dan Froomkin link is here

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

sign says "open letter"

what does that mean? That wapo can't avoid seeing it -- is it posted by the water cooler? -- or are you labouring under under a misapprehension?

anon_1

4:07 PM  
Blogger Taylor Marsh said...

An open letter is “a letter of protest; addressed to one person but intended for the general public, or a written message addressed to a person or organization.”

I have no doubt they know about it, especially since the Washington Post will be having a “moderated” live chat tomorrow morning and Jane will be live blogging, with help from you.

The Howell brouhaha has been picked up in a lot of places and now that O’Reilly is chiming in it’s getting even more attention. After all, Big Bill is the #1 show on cable, or whatever the hell his slogan is these days.

4:56 PM  
Anonymous Redshift said...

Another way of expressing the difference between conservative and reality-based criticism of the Post:

We want you to become more like the Watergate-era Post.

They want you to become more like the Washington Times.

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Blogger Stirling Newberry said...

Jack Shafer of Wapo owned slate says we are "swiftboating" howell.

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